Here is something I have been thinking a lot about (off and on) since my recent visit to Creation Museum.
Carnivores did not exist until after the Fall of man.
The assumption is that no animals died until after God killed the first animal to cover the human beings.
And think about what this means….
All the animal kingdom were vegetarians!
What would a wolf, tiger, shark, etc look like without those sharp teeth?
What did they eat!!!
I am just imaging all the adaptations that were made after the sin…..
And on a philosophical level….
Do you think that flesh was not suppose to be food?
Ok, well after doing some more research and thought I am keeping my mind open.
The more I think about it that more I have been thinking that death among animals (without souls) could quite possibly have happened even before the Fall of man.
1. God created all animals of all kinds. (Including Carnivores). Genesis 1:24-25 states “And God made the beasts [chayyah] of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind.. and God saw that it was good. In many places in the Old Testament, the Hebrew word “chayyah” refers to animals that eat flesh. In Genesis 1:24 term seems to refer to an entire group of animals, contrasting “cattle” which are herbivores. This strongly suggests that there were already carnivores before the Fall.
2. the eco. system and overpopulation:
1.Unchecked reproduction would lead to nightmarish overcrowding in a matter of weeks or less.
2. Many organisms are obligatory predators.
3. Many animals have elaborate defense mechanisms against predators.
4. Countless small organisms are routinely killed as larger organisms eat and walk.
5. Many organisms die of accidental deaths.
6. For physical immortality, absolutely all aging would need to cease.
7. Physical immortality removes the need for reproduction.
8. Vital ecological cycles cannot work if organisms do not die.
3. Theologically this would still work: God killed the first animal to cover for humans sins, but it is a strecth to say he killed the first animal period.
The meat of either argument centers on the interpretation of these verses:
Genesis 2:16, which states that God told Adam not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” A New Testament passage sometimes offered as support for the position is Romans 5:12 which states, “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin.”
Some assert that these verses indicate that no humans, animals, or plants died before before the Fall, and were created to be physcially immortal. Others allow plant death, on the grounds that God gave plants as food to us and other creatures (Genesis 1:29-30), or because plants are not conscious. Still others maintain that only humans were immortal before the Fall (Reem, 2005; Koukl, 2006). However, even if one interprets Genesis in a literal manner, when Biblical and scientific considerations are fully examined, the concept of “no physical death” is not well supported, and creates a host of theological, logical, and scientific problems. A more reasonable conclusion is that the verses in question refer to spiritual death, not physical death.
A lot of readings I will let you readfor yourself….
Did God create Carnivores on the 6th day?
It’s all about teeth… (THis one looks at both sides of the argument and has got me stumped. )
I think that all three ideas are feasible.
No human death before the fall? ( I like this arguement as well.)