Intelligent Design is not Creationism

I have been longing to see ANY type of empirical evidence over unguided process that evolutionists claim! There is NONE. All the evidence I have seen is shallow, stretched to the max, and not reliable at all. It is ridiculous. Thus why many scientists have turned to Design.

Design by a Creator is reality, not illusion. Some ID guys are Christians, but not all. ID does not claim who the Creator is. It just is reaching for something deeper than the Darwinism.

ID guys do not usually argue about the common descent.

ID is not based on religious texts.

For most ID guys, “God” is nature, for others, God is in nature.

Creation is separate in many ways! The Creator is identified intelligently as the Christian God of the Bible. Common descent is defeated in the Creation story line. And obviously, Creationism is based on religious text. Creationism will agree that evolutionists and Darwinists are off base in their arguments and this is why Darwinists and evolutionists claim that ID and Creationism are one and the same. THEY ARE NOT ONE AND THE SAME.

Darwinists will try to keep both ID and Creation OUT of the classroom and they will try to defeat both of us at the same time. Do not let them push the TRUTH down. As far as I am concerned let them defeat ID…we are not ID…we are Creationists! Do not let them group us into the same boat as ID!

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Problem: ID -Sticky apologetics

Some Christians love to use Intelligent Design evidence to evangelize.

It is a sticky situation:
on one hand ID does a good job of showing flaws in Darwinism and evolution. Which can be helpful for Christian evangelists…

The problem is, and it’s a big one, for evolutionists is that there is very, very little evidence that backs evolutionary biology aside from survival of the fittest. Darwin himself said that for his theory to be valid, the fossil record must contain literally millions of transitional species. Where are these millions? Show them to me and I’ll believe.

The fact is, they aren’t there. They have not been found, despite the billions of other fossils we have in our museums across the globe. God and His Creation are enough. No evolution required.”

On the other hand it does nothing to prove the existence of Christian God
In fact true Christians should NOT be ID supporters.
because ID is not enough! you need more! If you really are a Christian and believe the Bible than you will know that ID does not cut it.

It is a little sketchy to be a Christian who supports ID.
You are giving the wrong ideas off about your personal faith
you are giving off the wrong ideas about ID
and you are giving off the wrong ideas about Christians in general

intelligent design only demonstrates that materialist atheism is not true. It does not provide a basis for the distinctive doctrines of Christianity.

Proof of the existence of God is central to Christian apologetics, and therefore a part of Christian evangelism. ID offers a proof of a designer, which certainly is evidence for the existence of God because I’d say that philosophically… logically… God makes the most sense for the identity of the designer).

But this is dangerous grounds to stand on. If you are a Christian, I suggest reading the Bible and basing your world view on it…Creationism.

Problem: ignorance


So after the past week you have seen posts agianst Darwinism, about Expelled (the movie), about academic freedom, and the differences between Creationism and Intelligent Design (ID). Constantly I remind you that I am a Creationist and not a proponent of ID.

Why am I supporting it or giving it a fair chance? Why do I care? I am fighting for academic freedom. I believe in knowing all sides of the issues. I believe they should teach the controversy. I believe that idea of religion should be pushed aside a little bit and the science should be taught in classrooms. What I mean by that is I believe that in a classroom a teacher can be politically correct and teach Creationism, ID and evolution (all three sides of the debate) without pushing one side over the other. It must be done. The controversy must be taught without bias. Forget about religious views and show what each group believes.

Today more and more students are coming out of schools ignorant. They are without knowledge and do not even know the difference between ID and Creationism. Students are coming out brainwashed in the ideas of evolution. People are afraid that if ID and/or Creation is taught in schools that their kids will come out brainwashed in those ideas….but they what they missing their own point, students are currently being brainwashed! We need science taught objectively and all angles need to be presented. Yeah it would be difficult for a teacher to do, but it MUST be done!

If students want to be religious that is fine. But in the classroom they should learn ALL sides. They can study and or be a part of the religion outside of class period, that is great. I want people to know that facts and know the truth. I think the truth will really set people free. I believe that when presented with ALL angles, ALL sides, that people will make their own choices. People will follow the evidence and find what really is Truth, but when only ONE side of the story is giving at school, students are ignorant. Society is ignorant.

All I am asking is that we should have the freedom in America to study ALL vantage points in schools.

Teaching the controversy [regarding evolution versus intelligent design] is good education,” Laursen says, adding that he is “not shocked” to see such groups as the American Civil Liberties Union “opposing academic freedom and promoting censorship.”

Ravi Zacharias said it well: “To the extent that you can make your opponent’s position look ridiculous, to that extent you probably do not understand it.”

False theories and academic freedom



If professors do not have the right to study intelligent design, how will the general public ever legitimately study Intelligent Design (ID)? Also how will we anyone illegitimately come up with “evidence?” If you believe that there isn’t any credible evidence why do you care if people study it or not?

The point is that I am angry about the close-mindedness and elite “big science” that does not even allow for study of ID. In all seriousness I am not an ID proponent. I do not believe in it at all. I am a Creationist. But I want to know what it is about. I want everyone to have the right and freedom in America to study ID freely, just as they should have the right to study evolution or Creationism or whatever.

You might say that “there is no credible evidence for Intelligent Design.” Well that is fine, why though should people be kicked out of a job for mentioning ID? If the evidence is so bad why not encourage people to study it? What do you have to loose? Are you afraid that evidence will destroy your beloved “evolution argument!?” And if it does, so what? Why not allow people to follow where the evidence leads? Maybe it will lead to evolution, my point is let people study all angles and all sides of the debate!

I am ticked because there are plenty of false lies that Universities are teaching as facts, and people are free to learn about them! For example, theories in social sciences like psychology and sociology. Everyone learns about them and yet everyone studies them. They are even told how these theories are flawed and sometimes these theories are supported with evidence.

The point is both sides of the story are presented and professors and students are free to learn about them… but ID on the other hand is not allowed. My heart is crying out about academic freedom! Please do not be so close-minded and say that because there is no credible evidence that no one should be allowed to learn about it, because that is elitist and close-minded.

Theories that are not supported are the foundation to everything we have every studied. Our nation is build on learning and having the freedom to learn and study everything. Science in American history shows that experimenting and studying theories that might be false is the best way to learn what is true. I want to have the freedom to find out what is true. I want to study all aspects freely in America.

See evolutionnews.org

How is it that Evolution and Darwinism are just theories and the are not supported with hard evidence but no one is giving them a hard time?

Yet when people mention other unsupported theories say Intelligent Design, minds are closed, institutions lock the doors and theories are crushed..

Problem : people do not know what ID really is

A lot of people do not even know what Intelligent Design(ID) is, how it differs from Creationism, and what kind of evidence exists for it.

The truth is Creationism and ID are 2 completely different things. People try to say that ID is just a watered down version of Creationism, it is just a political way to slide in Creationism….well frankly both of these are just plain false!

The truth is Orthodox Christians are not ID proponents, I am not. Most Christians honestly do not even know what ID is about!!!!!
And the for the ID proponent’s sake….most of them are NOT Christians or religious at all!

True Christians cannot nor will not support ID. Scientologists are more likely to support it than Christians are. In fact Richard Dawkins is more likely a supporter of ID than a your informed practicing Christian.

What is ID? (well Expelled did not do so good at explaining terms…for any term, really!)
1. “certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection”.
2. It is a modern form of the traditional y and philosophical arguments for the existence of a designer
3. that designer could be anything, not necessarily even “god”
4. supported by The Discovery Institute (which is NOT a Christian Institution) Sure they take money from Christians (wouldn’t you?) who want to support it and Christian Apologists have worked with the Discovery Institute on projects but the they are 2 independent groups with 2 independent views and beliefs.

What are the differences between Creationism?

Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of the natural world could not have occurred by chance. Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason, but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone.

Creationism comes in many varieties, from the strictest biblical literalism to the theistic evolutionism of the Catholic Church . Between those extremes, there are “Young-Earth” and “Old-Earth” creationists, who differ over the age of the planet and the details of how God created life. But in all cases the Designer is the Christian God. They are based out of the Bible.

At a recent completed trial Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School Board:
Creationism they claim, is inextricably linked to the creation story in Genesis. ID, by contrast, is a solid scientific theory resting upon a firm foundation of biological fact. And while theological inferences could certainly be drawn from it, such inferences are unrelated to the theory itself.
This is key!

People are adding theological implications that are not necessarily being claimed by the ID supporters…Why?
“the easiest way for Darwinists to discredit intelligent design is to push it off as a theory or political theory for “creationism.” It is a rhetorical strategy on the part of Darwinists to delegitimize ID theory without actually addressing the merits of its case. It is laziness.

The scientific method (for ID) is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations, hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists hypothesize that if a natural object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI. Scientists then perform experimental tests upon natural objects to determine if they contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find irreducible complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed.

Where does one draw a line between science and religion?
According to intelligent design network people should and can be objective when studying science. People can make their own personal decision on religion but all sides can be taught equally and p in a politically correct fashion at our schools. This is part of academic freedom. That we should fight for!

Like I said I am not a ID proponent, I am a Creationist. I believe in the Bible and that God created all that is in 7days, but I can and will support and express this view in more detail at a later date. But I am all about academic freedom and letting people be free to study all sides of the debate.